@snarkweek@mstdn.social

@pelle @Veggie For me it's even different, the issue being that IKEA/the industry is abusing the vegetarian label for products like these which aren't. Vegetarians don't kill animals for food, yet these "vegetarian" products marketed by the industry include dairy from from installations purely dedicated to the production of such egg and milk. Their production processes are not vegetarian because they simply don't rely on existing cattle, as they breed and kill them for the product.

@snarkweek@mstdn.social

@pelle @Veggie I mean they have specific races that they call "milk cows" and "egg laying hens", which are bred, live tortured lives in cramped spaces, crammed full of food and then killed, only for the optimization of daily eggs. In the industry definition that is vegetarian, but in mine it isn't at all. Of course the industry has won that fight ("all non-meat is vegetarian")from a legal perspective so they can call almost anything they want vegetarian.

Veggie

Thanks for sharing your point of view and for elaborating it! I know the dairy and the meat industry is horrible! I think that the 'vegetarian' label is still a good thing, because it takes time to get a big amount of people to try other foods that they have not tried before. For a lot of people quitting meat is a big leap, and many still think vegan food is boring (whatever reason) or the concept seems too far away for them. A vegetarian alternative might make someone give it a try. I started as a vegetarian myself and have been so for more than a decade, because it felt right at the time, and it was a too big jump for me to fully go vegan. I think everyone has to find their own path they want to take on to align their food choices with their values. To come back to this picture: my goal with this page is to inspire others to try some more plant-based or vegetarian ideas while I keep discovering ideas myself. Even a partially vegan diet has already an impact: any reduction in the consumption of animal products is a step in the right direction, and we should encourage people for taking those steps, instead of discouraging for not doing enough.

@snarkweek@mstdn.social

@Veggie It's encouraging to see people thinking and talking about it and it's easy to forget that. And I had also forgotten that I myself was a vegetarian in between for some time. So thank you for sharing this, and the indisputable IKEA progress towards something sustainable.